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Hammeriturnajainen 3.1.2010

Vuoden 2010 kovatasoisimman Warhammer turnaus on pelattu !

Voitto meni käsittämättömän koville Breteille, WoC:it ja Liskot ottivat muut mitalisijat. Demonit, Vampit, Skavenit, Empiret ja örkit jäivät tällä kertaa sijoille ynnä muut.

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Kuvia seuraa.

Kiitokset kaikille pelaajille.
Mukana olivat:

  • Timo Oravala
  • Tuomas Hänninen
  • Sampsa Hänninen
  • Samu Törrönen
  • Kalle Mannonen
  • Teemu Kujala
  • Tapio Talvitie
  • Antti Lahtela
  • Ville Valkama
  • Ville Mannonen

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Aikataulu :

  • 09.30 paikalle ja vapaamuotoisesti kenttien kasaaminen
  • 10-13       1. Peli  (pitched battle)
  • 13-14       ruokatauko
  • 14-17       2. Peli  (pitched battle)
  • 17-20       3. Peli  (pitched battle)

Sääntöjä ja pisteytys

  • Pelistä saa pisteitä 10, -1/+1 jokaista täyttä 150 pistettä kohti victory point erotuksissa. Max. 20, min 0.
  • Ekan pelit pisteet puolitetaan (voittajalla pyöristys ylös, häviäjällä alas).
  • Figujen on oltava kuvaavia. Eniten pisteitä saanut voittaa.
  • Figujen ei tarvitse olla maalattuja, mutta suotavaa olis. Maalaamattomia nappeja sisältävä armeija saa -1 aloitusheittoon.
  • Kompit (ETC with minimal changes – read carefully):
  • Army size: 2000/2250/2500 points (depending on category, see below) with semi-secret rosters.

The ladder system:

All armies are divided into three categories; A, B and C. Category A armies are limited to 2000pts, B to 2250pts, C to 2500pts

When calculating victory points at the end of the game, once you have the result, then add 10% to any category A army’s losses rounding off as normal. Any category C army would conversely have its losses reduced by 10%

Category A (2000pts)

  • Demons of Chaos

Category A+/B- (2150)

  • Skaven

Category B (2250pts)

  • Dark Elves
  • Vampires
  • Empire
  • Lizardmen
  • Bretonnia
  • Chaos Dwarfs
  • Dwarfs
  • High Elves
  • Warriors of Chaos
  • Tomb Kings
  • Wood Elves

Category C (2500pts)

  • Ogre Kingdoms
  • Orcs & Goblins
  • Beastmen
  • Dogs of War

C -category armies may reroll one psychology test or miscast result per game.

General composition rules:

  • Armies are 2000/2250/2500 points.
  • No characters that are: special, named or Albion
  • No DoW or RoR in non-DoW armies . (OK may use Rhinox Cav)
  • No SoC armies.
  • Max. 1 of each rare choice (Max. 2 of each for Band C and High Elves)
  • Max. 2 of the same Special choice (Max.3 of the same for Band C)
  • Max. 3 of the same Core choice, except ranked infantry without missile weapons and beast herds.
  • Max. 9 PD/10DD in an army *
  • Max. 3 units of flyers (incl. characters)
  • Max. 45 models with missile weapons with a range of 20”+ (not incl. war machines, characters and chariots).
  • Max. 5 warmachines.

Magic description

You can use a maximum of 9 power dice in each magic phase. Each bound spell you use count as 1 power dice, all following bound spells used in the same turn counts as 2 power dice.

Every ability that grants the bearer complete knowledge of a single lore counts as one power dice in each magic phase.

All dice you would not normally generate, such as Focused Rumination Slann free dice, Skaven warpstones, night goblin mushrooms, power of darkness etc., also count in the total number of dice you can use in a magic phase.

Tomb Kings count each dice they use for a spell as 1 power dice and casket of souls counts as 2 dice total. They can not chose not to use all the dice when casting an incantation, for example a Liche Priest can’t choose only to use 1 dice on a spell. You can how ever choose not to cast a spell with a model. The 2 basic power dice all armies get only counts if they are used to dispel RIP spells with.

Max 10 dispel dice per army. First dispel scroll (and similar working items) you have in your army counts as 1 dispel dice, in EACH magic phase. The second and all other scrolls, counts as 2 dispel dice in each magic phase. So if you have 3 scrolls you can use a maximum of 5 dispel dice each magic phase. Dice from magic resistance does count in this maximum. Being allowed to reroll your dispel dice every turn counts as 1 dispel dice.

Dice removed by the Chaos Dwarf Chalice of Darkness count as dice used. You remove 3 power dice, you can use only 6 more in your magic phase.

Race specific:

DAEMONS OF CHAOS – Bloodthirster with Immortal Fury, Keeper of Secrets with Siren Song and Lord of Change with Will of Tzeentch count as an additional hero choice; Herald BSB may take either daemonic gifts or a daemonic icon, not both; Daemonic Gifts may not be duplicated (except for Spellbreakers); Horrors are limited to 0-2.

DARK ELVES – Ring of Hotek counts as 3 dispel dice each phase; assassins counts as hero choices; Shades limited in unit size to max. 8; the Pendant of Khaleth counts as a hero choice; The number of Repeater crossbows in army may not exceed 35; Max. 2 flying units or characters.  Either Hydra or Dragon, not both.

EMPIRE – Archlector on Waraltar with Vanhorstmans Speculum counts as an additional hero choice; Steam Tank counts as 2 rare choices

LIZARDMEN – Characters mounted on Stegadons also use the relevant special or rare slot; Max of 6 Terradons in army; discipline Becalming Cogitation counts as 2 dispel dice. Max. 2 Stegadons of any type

ORCS & GOBLINS – Max 6 goblin fanatics.

SKAVEN – To be Confirmed in Feb.

VAMPIRE COUNTS – The Drakenhoff banner counts as an additional hero choice; Each +1 to cast in the army counts as 1 powerdice in each phase. Max 5 + 1 Wraiths.

WOOD ELVES – Treeman Ancient counts as Treeman.

Tervetuloa Herrasmiesten Warhammer turnaukseen !

Pelataan vuodenvaihteessa sunnuntaina 3.1.2010 Nopat & Taktiika Ry:n tiloissa hammeriturnaus, paikkoja on kuudesta kymmennelle (tai niin monelle kuin tarvis on) sen mukaan miten saadaan maisemaa ja pelaajia paikalle. Pelaamaan on toistaiseksi jo ennakkoilmoittautunut viisi jehua, joten vielä mahtuu toinen mokoma paikalle.

Ilmoittaudu emailillä kalle.mannonen@espotel.fi jos olet tulossa. Ilmoita samalla jos voit tuoda maisemaa tullessasi, koska omasta takaa roinaa riittää kahdelle tai kolmelle kentälle.

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7 comments to Hammeriturnajainen 3.1.2010

  • Voisin tulla pelaamaan Gobbo-örkkiarmeijalla (riston + mun omia) ilman suurempia heroja tai monsuja, tai jokunen peikko ja ogre voi löytyä. Sääntöjä en osaa, joten jos joku voisi olla sitten neuvomassa tai jos ei ole mikään pingotusturnaus niin ehkä sitten vastustajakin voi neuvoa.

  • avatar jaakko

    Kertsillä on Ankkuksen vanhat maastot, eli kukkuloita ja metsiä on varmasti riittävästi 10+ pelipöydälle.

  • avatar kalle

    Verissäpäin pelataan, vankeja ei oteta ja vastustajan neuvoihin kannattaa suhtautua terveellä epäilyksellä :) Pelissä on sentäs ikuinen maine ja kunnia. Turnauksen voittaja on Isoin Kiho, Tunkion Kunkku, ja Kaiken Osaamisen Alkulähde, ainakin seuraavaan mittelöön asti. Muuten rento meininki…

    Se Riston gobboarmeijahan on ihan karmeeta juustoa, nuiji Skavenit vanhalla kirjalla kuus-nolla. Säännöt kannattaa kyllä kerrata ennen turnausta, tuskin tuo pelimuoto ihan vieras lienee varhaisemmalta esi-kivikaudelta ? Otetaan harjotusmatsi pohjille, sitten vaan juoksulenkkejä lumihangessa ja tukkien kantelua, rannalla juoksua ja muuta pientä turnauskunnon kohotusta niin hyvä tulee.

  • Trying to iron our the “broken” bits in individual armies is a fairly difficult and messy business, it leaves you open to criticism from all sides. I’ve found your ideas very interesting and I’m going to run the above past our forum members to see what they think.

    Good work,
    Sigmar

    BTW, if you’re interested, I have over 170 battle reports posted on the web and have kept track of each army’s successes. There is probably not a big enough mix of different battles and more importantly players for it to be a true reflection but it does go to show that any army can indeed beat any other army. Certainly, in tournaments the game is a lot more balanced because you have to cater for the unknown and the likely. This often means you have to stick more with vanilla type of units and have less to spend on risky gambles.

    Anyway, good luck with the tournament. The battle reports blog I was talking about is here:-

    http://2d6.blogspot.com

  • Hello again, I hope you don’t mind but I’ve pasted your Warhammer tournament rule suggestions in my forum. If you’re interested in seeing some alternative opinions on them, you can find the post here:-

    http://battlereporter.freeforums.org/warhammer-army-game-balancing-is-it-wise-t2043.html

    I thought it would make an excellent discussion. BTW, the forum is not a massive one so best check back in a few days because it takes a while sometimes for the discussion to really “kick off”.

    All the best,
    Sigmar

  • avatar kalle

    Hi Sigmar !

    These rules are 99.99% from European Team Championship draft proposal for year 2010’s army composition, so thank them :)

    Anyway, hope those rules help us have a tournament where the generalship has more to do with results than just army selection.

    Best Regards,
    Kalle

  • avatar kalle

    Minor adjustment done, check the changes for C -category armies.

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